Color capabilities comparison

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Lecunza
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Color capabilities comparison

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Hi, PrintFab team!
I've recently acquired PrintFab Pro program trying to improve print quality in terms of color and gamut. I hoped your ability to increase amount of ink up to 300% will help me to widen printer gamut. Since I have my own spectrophotometer and used to build ICC profiles before I made the comparison of standard Epson driver, and PrintFab driver and discovered no superiority of PrintFab driver over standard Epson Driver. The same printer, same paper, same ink, same color target, same day, same hands & eyes :) Even worse - PrintFab results in significantly narrower gamut. What did I do wrong?
By the way - I can't understand how I can benefit from managing ink amount during profiling: printing color target do not permit me any adjustment for possible saturation enhancement (yes, I put 300% of possible ink amount, but I'm not sure it uses full 300% while printing color target). Doing this subsequently (after profiling) will distort color accuracy (I think). So, I can't imagine at what point of process it may be helpful to control ink amount if we are talking about photography?
For illustration I attach pictures reflecting 3d-view of profiles (translucent yellow - Epson driver profile body, blue one - PrintFab).

With kind regards,
Alexander
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zedonet
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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Hello, I think the difference comes from more ink being applied by the original Epson driver. Which Epson printer model did you profile and what was the media type used? Please include the settings of the Epson driver and the PrintFab profile settings (media type, quality, ink limit).
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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Hello again!
Sorry for incomplete story :( tech specs should be attached from the very beginning! Here they are:

Windows 11
Device - i1pro2
Printer - Epson SureColor P600, resolution in both cases 1440*1440 dpi
Real Paper - Lomond Proofing Paper, silk-matte, 180 g/cm2
Color Target - 2400 patches

Epson Printer Driver (v.6.77):
Paper Setting - UltraPremium Presentation Matte

PrintFab Driver (Epson_SureColorP600):
Paper Class: Matte inkjet paper
Ink Limit: 300

Something else?

With regards, Alexander
PS: Have resulting profiles as well as measurement files (*.mxf)
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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Can you please send the resulting color profiles (Epson driver, PrintFab driver) by email to
mail <at> zedonet <dot> de
Thank you!
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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I include information on how to increase the ink amount for matte print media. It is important to know that existing color profiles and the PrintFab internal media profiles will also print with more ink.

Load the following file into a text editor

C:\Program Files\ZEDOnet\PrintFab\colors\P600matteblk.tpm

Please note that you cannot save the modified file to the "program files\...\colors" directory, instead you have to save the file to a different directory and then copy the file back to the "printers" directory using the file explorer.

Depending on the print quality, you have to look a specific section - for 1440dpi:

[1440dpi_matteblk]
Channels=k,c,m,y,k2,c2,m2,k3
Saturation=50
...

for 2880dpi:

[2880dpi_matteblk]
Channels=k,c,m,y,k2,c2,m2,k3
Saturation=50
...

for 5760dpi:

[5760_matteblk]
Channels=k,c,m,y,k2,c2,m2,k3
Saturation=63
...

Increase the value behind "Saturation" according to your requirements. I suggest to start with increasing 50 to 70 and for 5760dpi increasing 63 to 80 and then try to print a new color profile chart with an ink limit of 200 (more ink per channel, but limit to a total of 200% when combining ink channels like cyan+yellow).
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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OK. Thank you!
Will try a little bit later and inform you about results!
Give me, pls, one week or so.

With regards,
Alexander
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

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OK, found this section.
As to 1440 and 2880 - OK.
As to 5760 - I see the following:
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[5760dpi_matteblk]
Channels=k,c,m,y,k2,c2,m2,k3
Saturation=63 ;(55/2) / 40
Gamma=400
Bits=2
---------
Only "63" should be touched?

With regards, Alexander
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Re: Color capabilities comparison

Post by Lecunza »

And some additional reasoning:
why to change numbers "in blind"? Given we have spectrophotometer why not to print "something", measure "something", and then deduce needed limits/numbers?
Yes, it may be painful/unneeded for most of customers, but for some "desperate persons"? :)

Alexander
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